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"He who thinks that the living entity is the slayer or that he is slain does not understand. One who is in knowledge knows that the self slays not nor is slain." [Bg. 2.19]
“For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.” [Bg. 2.20]
So, in different ways, Krsna is trying to convince us how the soul is immortal. Different ways. Ya enam vetti hantaram [Bg. 2.19]. When there is fight, so if one is killed or... So Krsna says that if one thinks that "This man has killed this man," so, or "This man can kill this man," this kind of knowledge is not perfect. Nobody kills nobody. Then the butchers, they may say that "Then why do you complain that we are killing?" They're killing the body, but you cannot kill when there is injunction "Thou shall not kill." That means you cannot kill the body even without sanction. You cannot kill. Although the soul is not killed, the body is killed, still you cannot kill the body without sanction. That is sinful. For example, that a man is living in some apartment. So some way or other you drive him away from that, illegally, you drive him away. So the man will go out and will take shelter somewhere. That's a fact. But because you have driven him away from his bona fide position, you are criminal. You cannot say, "Although I have driven away, he'll get some place." No. That's all right, but you have no power to drive him away. He was in his legal position to live in that apartment, and because you have forcibly driven him away you are criminal, you should be punished.
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Radhadesh Mellows 2014. Morninglecture by Kadamba Kanana Swami
Wednesday and Thursday were the days of arrival for all the devotees who came for the festival. Almost 180 friends and disciples of Kadamba Kanana Swami joined the party and filled the Radhadesh guesthouse and ashrams. It was a lovely sea of devotion and we all had the chance to meet friends.
Kadamba Kanana Swami gave the morning class 24 April, Srimad Bhagavatam 6.4.46.
Download as mp3 (right-click, save as)Later that the evening, Kunti Kumari organized a wonderful evening of Caitanya-Caritramrta katha. First, we had some intro bhajans, afterwards katha on the Caitanya caritramrta and then more bhajan. Finally, Gopali devi dasi was the host in our first CC Quiz. Sutapa’s team won after beating the other teams with the correct answers on even the Extra Hard Questions!!!
Intro CC Bhajans
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Download as mp3CC Quiz hosted by Gopali dd
Download as mp3In between the CC programs, we had a super tasty dinner organised and prepared by Savitri dd. Our taste buds were going to heaven after relishing the super tasty lasagne and the tiramisu…
The next day the Srimad Bhagavatam class was on 6.4.47 and Kadamba Kanana Swami explained the theme of this festival, “a year of changes”.
Download as mp3At 10h00 the Vyasa-puja festival started with the abhisek, gurvastakam sung by Mayapur Chandradoya dasa and the intro by Sutapa dasa. After the introduction, the next part were the wonderful enlivening offerings, creative poems and even two raps by Gurudas and Prahlad (son of Premalata dd). It was again wonderful to hear all the stories and dedication that everybody shared. Kadamba Kanana Swami commented afterwards on the many offerings and talked about his realizations from our offerings. He quoted Sadbhuja, “We learned through our experiences,” and he explained that he felt the same way. Guru puja was sung by Dwarkadisha dasa and we all took our chance to offer flowers to Kadamba Kanana Swami. He even joined the kirtan afterwards.
Download as mp3The recordings of the whole vyasa-puja festival and offerings can be found here. (password protected)
After fasting comes feasting and we enjoyed a super excellent ekadasi lunch organized & prepared by Pradyumna dasa and his crew. Fried potatoes, two vegetable dishes, kofta, salad, raita and tea. But even if that was not enough, we got the birthday cake which was prepared by Gauravani dd. To top it off, we got shrikhand, carrot halava, oatmeal carob sweets and other milk sweets. Luckily we could eat it all.
The schedule was really packed and so was the temple room when the initiation ceremony took place in the afternoon. The yajna was performed by Dhira Krishna das and Kadamba Kanana Swami gave a wonderful introductory class for the initiates.
Download as mp3Initiates *
1. Sundari Sherreitt : Syamasundari devi dasi
2. Annamarija: Arati Devi Dasi
3. Petr Holubar : Purusatraya das
4. Petr Vanek: Purna Tattva das
5. Sibusiso Nkambule : Svayambhu das
6. Angelica Guerrero : Acintya Lila devi dasi
7. Marius Rastauskas : Murari Caitanya das
* known at time of publishing. List subject to change.
And the fire yajna concluded this very busy but very auspicious day only to be superseded by the next big event. The Kings Day Harinam.
After the Kingsday Kadamba Kanana Swami still had energy left to give the morning class on the Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya-lila 22.142.
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It is said, ‘tada rajastamo bhavah kamalobhadayas ca ye.’ When one is afflicted with the base material modes of nature, namely rajoguna and tamoguna, then he becomes greedy and lusty. So ethics require to get out of the clutches of greediness and lusty desires. Then he comes to the platform of goodness, which will help him to go to the platform of spiritual life.
Dialectic Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy(Prabhupada Books, 1985), conversation about Socrates
The Melbourne temple devotees go out on regular harinama downtown and to various suburbs.
(Kadamba Kanana Swami, 10 October 2013, Melbourne, Australia, Srimad Bhagavatam 2.3.14)
It is said that when the yugas are changing, that first there is a sandhya or a joint period. So the first part of the Kali yuga is also the sandhya – the joint period – and it is within that sandhya that the Golden Age of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu will begin. It is within that sandhya that there will be a ten thousand year period where the Golden Age would be manifested, as described in the Brahma Vaivarta Purana. It is said that in this age, all the people would be purified by the harinam sankirtan and there will be no longer different varnas, different classes of men, as there will be eka varna hari bhakta – there will be only one class of men, devotees of the Lord.
So basically, sometimes we think when the Golden Age comes, then (speaking in a formal voice) Krsna consciousness will become the predominant world religion. In every country, people will be wearing tilak and on every corner, instead of churches and mosques, there will be temples and everyone will pray in Krsna temples. I don’t know… is it going to be like that or is it going to be even more transcendental, is it going to be eka varna hari bhakta – is it going to be totally ecstatic!
Is it just like when someone in the morning walks out of the house with the mrdanga, and someone else sees that, ‘Hey, what’s that?’ and he grabs the karatals and suddenly spontaneously harinam begins. Others see the harinam and think, ‘Wait a minute, we have a ratha cart!’ and they bring a ratha cart out. Then someone else sees that, ‘Look at that, a ratha yatra! Ok! Let’s start cooking!’ And before you know it, pakoras are coming! Like that, the whole thing is just happening and the whole town of Melbourne is just getting into it. The demigods are adjusting the weather and everything is perfect and so beautiful and then you see children rolling in Melbourne Park in ecstasy, with hairs standing on end!
Why not? All these things are possible; we have no idea what this Golden Age will be like, that’s really my point – I am just thinking of how it could be! And probably, most likely, it is going to be something even more extraordinary than all of us can think of together. That Golden Age will be something and it has already started, it is already happening, the mercy is already penetrating everywhere! Now, we laugh at Kali yuga, as it is already defeated!
Our students became Book Detectives, with briefcases, detective glasses and paperwork in hand to investigate the books they were studying.
Turning a generic “Book Report” into an “Investigative Report” did miracles to their motivation in writing about what they read! When the clock hit 2 PM, they would automatically pull out their ‘briefcases’, put on their glasses, grab their books and pencils and begin filling out their Reports!
The Line Up card asked for identifying the main characters in the story. They fill out the “Line-Up Card” – describing the characters in the story. The “Evidence” and “Witness Report” asked for students to identify the beginning, middle, and end of the story. Other reports required students to compare and contrast two or more characters, as well as acknowledge differing points of view of the characters.
Motivating a young child to write is a big challenge any teacher. Using this package gave such purpose to my little writers. I recommend them for every class. You can find it here.
Last month after being asked to give class I spent time studying at the time I was asked if it was possible to comment on the words of Srila Rupa Gosvami regarding dhakti, sadly before giving class my glasses broke and I was unable to read my notes and didn’t cover it. One of the notation’s from Srila Prabhupada was as follows:
The exclusive nature of devotional service has also been described by Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī in the Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu (1.1.11):
anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānu-śīlanaṁ bhaktir uttamā
“When first-class devotional service develops, one must be devoid of all material desires, knowledge obtained by monistic philosophy, and fruitive action. The devotee must constantly serve Krishna favorably, as Krishna desires.”
Pure devotees are so exclusive in their intent to serve the Supreme Lord without any reward that they do not accept any kind of liberation, even though it may be offered by the Supreme Lord. This is confirmed in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (3.29.13).
There is also something called “mixed bhakti,” which occurs before the stage of pure devotional service. It is sometimes called prākṛta-bhakti, or devotional service mixed with material desires. Śrīla Prabhupāda writes, “When one has even a tinge of personal interest, his devotion is mixed with the three modes of material nature” (Bhāg. 3.29.9, purport). Thus mixed devotion can occur in various combinations within the modes of ignorance, passion, and goodness. Śrīla Prabhupāda elaborately explains mixed devotion as follows:
Devotional service in the modes of ignorance, passion, and goodness can be divided into eighty-one categories. There are different devotional activities, such as hearing, chanting, remembering, worshiping, offering prayers, rendering service, and surrendering everything, and each of them can be divided into three categories. There is hearing in the mode of passion, in the mode of ignorance, and in the mode of goodness. Similarly, there is chanting in the mode of ignorance, passion, and goodness, etc…. One has to transcend all such mixed materialistic devotional service in order to reach the standard of pure devotional service. [Bhāg. 3.29.10, purport]
One kind of mixed devotional service is known as jñāna-miśra-bhakti, or devotional service mixed with empiric knowledge. Śrīla Prabhupāda writes, “People in general, who are under the influence of avidyā-śakti, or māyā, have neither knowledge nor devotion. But when a person who is a little advanced and is therefore called a jñānī advances even more, he is in the category of a jñāna-miśra-bhakta, or a devotee whose love is mixed with empiric knowledge” (Bhāg. 4.9.16, purport).
Narada Bhakta Sutra 1.9
Over the time I’ve heard of individuals who have left the movement because of problems with devotee’s or quote some incident regarding a devotee or group of devotee’s as a reason to ridicule the movement.
I’ve been pondering this term prak ta-bhakti or service mixed with material desire and how Srila Prabhupada notes how this is devotion mixed by one of the three modes of material nature, my thought is what we see and note is the symptoms of our material conditioning.
We try our best but as we chose this material body we remain under the influence of material nature and thus this influence manifests itself when it comes to our seva. But we are trying to break free from Maya’s clutches and so the greatest privilege is being engaged in devotional seva.
Krishna and the devotee’s are so kind that they engage us nicely and accept what little we have to offer eventually down to this steady engagement we become less influenced by material nature.
In the mean time because of the conditioning our seva may not always be what it should be but I’m sure like me you hope those who see your efforts appreciate this and overlook our weaknesses and failings whilst forgiving any offences.
It occurred to me how kind Krishna and the devotee’s are not expecting us to be pure before doing seva.
It also reminded me that if we want others to show and appreciate our efforts we also have to change our mentality or should I say I have to change, rather than seeing faults seeing the beauty in the seva being done.
It reminded me of the fly and bee analogues and how we need to develop this bee mentality, for in a rubbish dump the bee would only see the one small flower and ignore the rest, whilst the fly even in a beautiful garden will only see the small stool in the garden.
Yes at times we see or hear of event’s when devotees have not quite conducted themselves correctly I know I’m guilty of this but then I’m trying to break free from my material conditioning. As so are many who come into the devotee society so there will at times be difficulty
And this is were we get to develop our compassion for the fallen conditioned soul, we can learn forgiveness and learn to appreciate the beauty of each small act of devotional service.
This was my thoughts whilst reading on this subject but as always what’s your thought’s?
1 May 2014 17:40:44
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From Gopi Vallabhi Devi Dasi
From Radhika Nagara P
From Radhika Nagara Prabhu
Problems with the Aryan invasion theory
(Adapted from A Survey of Hinduism by Klaus Klostermaier)
1. Unsubstantiated Linguistic Conjecture: The Aryan invasion theory is based purely on linguistic conjectures, which are unsubstantiated.
3. No reference in relevant literature: There is no hint of an invasion or of large-scale migration in the records of ancient India: neither in the Vedas, in Buddhist or Jain writings, nor in Tamil literature. The fauna and flora, the geography, and the climate described in the Ṛgveda are those of northern India.
4. Cultural continuity: There is a striking cultural continuity between the archaeological artifacts of the Indus-Sarasvati civilization and later phases of Indian culture: a continuity of religious ideas, arts, crafts, architecture, and system of weights and measures.
5. Archaeological similarity before and after the supposed invasion: The archaeological finds of Mehrgarh dated ca. 7000 bce (copper, cattle, barley) reveal a culture similar to that of the Vedic Indians. Contrary to former interpretations, the Ṛgveda reflects not a nomadic but an urban culture.
6. The missing horse is no longer missing: The Aryan invasion theory was based on the assumption that a nomadic people in possession of horses and chariots defeated an urban civilization that did not know horses and that horses are depicted only from the middle of the second millennium onward. Meanwhile archaeological remains of horses have been discovered in Harappan and pre-Harappan sites; drawings of horses have been found in Paleolithic caves in central India. Horse drawn war chariots are not typical for nomadic breeders but for urban civilizations.
7. Similar racial diversity in skeletons: The racial diversity found in skeletons in the cities of the Indus civilization is the same as in today’s India; there is no evidence of the coming of a new race.
8. Advanced astronomy: The astronomical references in the Ṛgveda are based on a Pleiades- Kṛttika calendar of ca. 2500 bce. Vedic astronomy and mathematics were well-developed sciences: these are not features of the culture of a nomadic people.
9. Destruction due to desertification, not invasion: The Indus cities were not destroyed by invaders but deserted by their inhabitants because of desertification of the area. Strabo (Geography XV.1.19) reports that Aristobulos had seen thousands of villages and towns deserted because the Indus had changed its course.
10. Advanced architecture prior to supposed invasion: Excavations in Dvaraka have led to the discovery of a site larger than Mohenjo Daro, dated ca. 1500 bce with architectural structures, use of iron, and a script halfway between Harappan and Brahmi. Dvaraka has been associated with Kṛishna and the end of the Vedic period.
11. Continuity in scripts: There is a continuity in the morphology of scripts: Harappan— Brahmi—Devanagari.
12. Long Puranic dynastic lists: The Puranic dynastic lists, with over 120 kings in one Vedic dynasty alone, date back to the third millennium bce. Greek accounts tell of Indian royal lists going back to the seventh millennium bce.
13. Vedic culture too advanced for nomads: The Ṛgveda shows an advanced and sophisticated culture, the product of a long development, “a civilization that could not have been delivered to India on horseback.”
14. Idea of a nationwide historical amnesia absurd: It would be strange indeed if the Vedic Indians had lost all recollection of such a momentous event as the Aryan invasion in supposedly relatively recent times—much more recent, for instance, than the migration of Abraham and his people, which is well attested and frequently referred to in the Hebrew Bible.