A kirtan star
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(Kadamba Kanana Swami, 30 June 2013, Vrndavana, India, Srimad Bhagavatam 6.16.34)

Aindra-Prabhu-photoThe nice thing about the 24-hour kirtan is that you guys are not alone. First of all, these days cameras are on your face and it is obvious that you are not alone! They (cameramen) block the views sometimes, don’t they? They sit there, in front of Krsna-Balarama. It is a bit intense with them blocking all the darshan. With these cameras here now, you are really chanting for the camera. You are sitting there, smiling into the camera. “Who’s playing? Tune in…” provide a schedule so fans can click in and you can see how many fans you have.

That is an interesting part about Aindra Dasa; he never wanted that because if he wanted, he could have travelled. Everyone would have paid his ticket to anywhere and his fame as a kirtan star would have reached great heights. But no, he wanted to be here and chant for the pleasure of the deities. Of course, he became a kirtan star anyway but that is another matter. That was not his interest, his interest was to chant for Krsna’s pleasure!

 

 

Harinam Standards No.2
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Srila Prabhupada requested us to have a dozen devotees on Harinam,
2 mrdanga players,
8 karatal players,
1 melodious harmonium player and 1 tampora player.

Now I wish to focus on the “melodious harmonium”, and the singing of the mahamantra. This is a tune I refer to as the “Prabhupada tune”. My opinion now is to chant this tune in the key of F, if you are in a temple room environment…Asharp F C F. Just four notes. And if you are on the street (where the Sankirtan movement will always be based) then I suggest you chant in the key of G………..it goes like this C G D G.

Of course there are many tunes, many nice tunes, also many tunes that makes you feel that you are at a funeral, or tunes that yodel along.

This video was made at the begining of Harinam on the wet wet night in London and HH Danavir Maharaj led the kirtan C G D G for two hours without any change at all.

Sung by Govinda Prabhu,
Your servant Parasuram Das

New Vrindaban Devotee Vahna Left His Body
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For the old time New Vrindaban devotees who remember him, Vahna has left his  body.  We were notified 7/24/13 it may have been the 23rd. There will be a memorial service in about two weeks, details forthcoming.

He was 68 years old. He was preceded in leaving the planet by his father and his second wife Hladini. He is survived by his first wife Visvadhika, his son Rich (Sarthi)  and two grandchildren.

He ran a poetry magazine at the end of the beat era and was the original publisher of some of Allan Gingsberg’s poetry, that was the crowd he rolled with. He  was a poet himself and wrote hundreds if not thousands of poems.  He has a book of poetry available from Amazon.con, The blind receptionist and other poems.

He moved to New Vrindaban in the early 1970?s (that was before my time (1973)  so someone correct me if it was earlier) and was initiated by Srila Prabhupada.  He built the house across the road from the Madhuban temple and was married to Hladini  who lived with him there where she  was the pujari  at that time. His father was an early supporter of New Vrindaban.

He was a brilliant tortured soul who struggled with alcohol for most of his life. This caused him to avoid the direct association of devotees of whom he always spoke well and respected. As his son is going through his affects, he discovered a medical diagnosis that Vahna was schizophrenic and had some bipolar issues.

As his son said, he dealt with it by writing poetry, and had a bottle of Jack Daniels in one hand and a bead bag in the other.  When he was at the funeral home making the arrangements for cremation, the director asked him if he wore any jewelry. He told him he always had his bead bag.  They looked and found his hand in his bead bag.

When he wasn’t drinking, and he would have periods where he could keep it together months or even years at a time as  in his early days at New Vrindaban, he was the sweetest person, who was always interesting to talk to.

To newer devotes all they would know of Vahna is seeing him walking from his house in Talaban to the Limestone General Store. Although he was walking there to get his booze, he had his hand in his bead bag as he walked.

He continued to live in New Vrindaban in Talaban until his passing. Once when Srila Prabhupada was here he told the devotees to just stay in New Vrindaban no matter what. While Vahna may have had his struggles, he did obey that instruction.  He also never deviated from the instruction to chant Hare Krishna.

Some Remembrances

Hari Sauri’s diary: New Vrindaban, West Virginia 07-02-1976

After a quiet day Srila Prabhupada was driven in the late afternoon to the Pittsburgh airport to embark on the next stage of his tour. Before we left we brought Vahna dasa, the owner of the house, in for a very brief darsana with Srila Prabhupada. To his credit, he was reluctant to come before his spiritual master because he has not been following the principles for quite some time.

Prabhupada appreciated his embarrassment and also his willingness to make his house available for his stay. He thanked him and gave him a garland and a few words of encouragement.

ANOTHER SHORT COMMENT FROM A DEVOTEE:

I have just found out about Vahna Prabhu’s passing. It came as quite a surprise. I am quite sure Hladini was with him in any way she could be to assist him in that most important of transitions. She always spoke of how earnestly and intently he desired spiritual life even in the face of all his conditional obstacles. She would sometimes say to see someone’s false ego was to see only what they are not, not what or who they truly are.

My condolences to all his friends and family.  From an aspiring servant .

ONE DEVOTEE GIVES THIS FUNNY COMMENT:

I think he was at first called Tulsi Bob because he took care of Tulsi (1973 or so?) for a brief time.

18.22 – Tune in to yourself to best tune in to the world
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Some people can't live without continuous external stimulation. Every few minutes, they check their cellphones for the latest stock prices or the breaking news or the cricket scores.

We may need to be in tune with the world, but we don’t need to be dependent on or addicted to external stimulation. That sort of tuning in to the world tunes us out of ourselves. It disconnects us from our core values, our cherished principles, our deepest priorities. It reduces us from conscious beings with meaning to reactionary robots geared for little more than survival amidst the relentless assault of daily upheavals.

Our awareness of current affairs may make others’ jaws drop, but that doesn't stop our heart from dropping. Our unawareness of our self slowly but surely pushes our heart into a free fall deep into the abyss of ultimate meaninglessness. The lack of answers to life’s fundamental questions like “Who am I? What is life? What actually counts in life?” saps at our vitals, making us empty shells that keep functioning based on appearance, not substance. The Bhagavad-gita (18.22) declares such lopsided obsession with a fraction of reality to be knowledge in the mode of ignorance.

We are souls whose true nature is to delight in an eternal loving connection with Krishna. The process of devotional service enables us to tune in to our true nature.

After we invest time regularly to tune in to our true selves, then we can tune in to the world in a way that is transformational. Externally we are able to act intelligently and productively for our and others’ best interests. And internally we are able to better realize spiritual truths. In this symbiosis of our outer and inner world we discover a life that is simultaneously stimulating and fulfilling.

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And that knowledge by which one is attached to one kind of work as the all in all, without knowledge of the truth, and which is very meager, is said to be in the mode of darkness.

Why were prostitutes present in Ayodhya?
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In the 9th canto, it is explained that beautiful prostitutes went to welcome Sri Ram on his return to Ayodhya from the war. SB 9.10.51 mentions how everyone was religious and completely happy during his rule. Then why were there prostitutes in his kingdom? Surely the customers of the prostitutes were not religious. Ram Rajya is an example of the best governance by a king, so how was this social ill present then?

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Is the Gita’s message life-negating?
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Question: The Gita says that life is miserable, and all the pleasures of life are traps that we need to escape. With such a gloomy picture of life, what is left to live for? Isn’t this a terribly life-negating message?

 Answer Summary: Not at all. The Gita’s message is profoundly life-affirming – life is a precious gift coming from Krishna and He is eager to help us make the best of this gift. It is materialism that dishonors life and makes us act dishonorably. From the shackles of such life-negating materialism, Gita wisdom sets us free.

 Answer: Let’s understand the life-affirming nature of the message of the Gita by looking at its three central messages.

Three life-affirming message of the Gita

The Gita’s first life-affirming message is that biology is not destiny. Life extends far beyond the mortality of the body. Our material bodies are external shells that temporarily house us, as the Bhagavad-gita (02.13) indicates, during our multi-life journey through material existence. We are souls who are capable of accessing and relishing eternal happiness at the spiritual level of reality.

The Gita’s second life-affirming message is that though we are finite, our happiness doesn’t have to be finite. If we link ourselves in love with the infinite, then our heart can become filled and flooded with infinite happiness. Krishna is the infinite in his infinitely charming form; He is God in his highest and sweetest manifestation, an overflowing ocean of love and joy. When we connect ourselves with him through devotion, then everlasting happiness becomes ours, as the Bhagavad-gita (10.09) indicates.

 The Gita’s third life-affirming message is that we can make our temporary life in this material world into a catapult to eternal life in the spiritual world, as the Bhagavad-gita (08.15) indicates. This reinvention of life as a launching pad to eternity is possible only for us human beings, so human life is especially affirmed, even esteemed. Of course, all life is a gift of God, for no life is possible without his grace. Still, among all forms of life, the human form is uniquely precious. It alone allows the soul to have the evolved consciousness necessary for perceiving and pursuing spiritual reality. We humans can choose to direct our love towards Krishna and thereby transfer first our heart and eventually our entire existence to his world of undying love. Indeed, human life is so esteemed that even one moment that is not tapped for its spiritual potential becomes a tragic loss, as a famous Vishnu Purana verse indicates. What can be a greater affirmation of life than an exhortation to treasure its every moment?

The autobiography of a materialist

In contrast to this life-affirming message of the Gita, the message of materialism is starkly life-negating. The gospel of materialism, if presented as the autobiography of a materialist, would run something like this.

“Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is terminal and unavoidable. I am a particle of protoplasm that became animate when two people had sex. And that particle slowly grew to become the bag of biochemicals that is now me. Sometime in the future this bag will inevitably be busted by a bug or bang – and that will be goodbye to me. And that ghastly goodbye can occur anytime, even this very moment.

“Before that deadly disaster strikes, I am meant to extract from the mine of the body for the gold of bodily enjoyment. I want pleasures and treasures, positions and possessions, medals and trophies. My heart burns with fierce ambition whenever I see others enjoying these things and crave for the day when I will be able to enjoy them. I never let myself be shackled by obscurantist ideas that mislabel ambition as greed and warn that such greed will keep one always dissatisfied. I welcome dissatisfaction as the fuel of life.

“Yet in my moments of introspection I cannot but wonder whether life might have a better fuel than this perpetual dissatisfaction. Whenever I achieve my goals, I am appalled at how superficial and unfulfilling they turn out to be. When I ascent the summit of success, I find that the summit starts going down a landslide; the value of the success starts going on an inexorable south-bound curve. The medals that I dreamt and slaved for seem nothing more than baubles now. But I never give up. I know one day I will get the thing that will make me truly happy.

“Among all the gold that the body offers, the highest is the 24-carat gold of sexual delight. That’s the perfection of life. In fact, it’s the very purpose of existence. But exasperatingly the 24-carat gold seems to be present abundantly in everyone’s mine except mine. It’s definitely present in the mines of the gorgeous-looking stars, as is evident in their expressions during their erotic movie scenes that send me into a rapture of torture. It’s also present in the mines of my many friends who delight in bragging about their latest sexual conquests. Yet when my turn to mine comes, the gold stock gets exhausted in a few fleeting moments. The body’s capacity to enjoy runs out long before I can play out even a fraction of my fantasies. And I am left with nothing but a burning desire for more pleasure – a blazing inner fire that scorches my insides with perpetual agitation and dissatisfaction.”

The Srimad Bhagavatam (7.9.25) precisely points to the predicament of such materialists. It characterizes sensual enjoyment as visible to the eye like a mirage (mriga-trishni rupah) and audible to the ear (shruti-sukha) but unattainable to experience (durapaih) beyond a drop (madhu-lavaih) that only aggravates, but never quenches, the fire of desire (kamanalam).

What we desperately long to believe about sensual pleasure and what our actual, undeniable experience tells us about it are so conflicting that it underlies most of our mental turbulence. The confrontation between them is so intense that the sparks from the resulting friction short-circuit our intelligence. And we continue to believe in fantasy instead of learning from reality. Pertinently, the same Bhagavatam verse declares that even the learned can’t break free from the seductive charms of sensual pleasures.

This flip side of the materialistic gospel is one of life’s worst-kept and best-kept secrets. Worst-kept secret because it is perceivable in the shrunken faces and shallow eyes of the devotees of materialism after their worship on the altar of parties ends. And it is perceivable in the depression, addiction and self-destruction even to the point of suicide that often characterizes their off-party life. Worse still, the materialistic worldview leads humanity to moral bankruptcy. If they are taught that they are nothing more than matter and one shot at living is all that we get, then why should they let old-fashioned notions of morality deprive themselves of material enjoyment? Even if they don’t intentionally toss morality overboard as unnecessary baggage, they still find their moral muscles afflicted with an alarming atrophy. Whenever they look beyond enjoyment to ethics as a factor in our decision-making, ethics can't put up much more than a brief fight before they indulge in the enjoyable. Sadly, thought materialists remain unswervingly devoted to their worshipable deity of materialism, their devotion ends up hurting them not just spiritually but also materially. As it leaves them with no avenue for any pleasure other than the material, they become highly vulnerable to ever-intensifying sensual desires that transmogrify into addictions that ruin even their material prospects. Thus does materialism dishonor life by reducing it to to just one brief meaningless lifetime. And it makes people act dishonorably by stripping away from them all moral and intellectual defenses to predatory desires for instant enjoyment.

Yet this flip-side of materialism is also one of life’s best-kept secrets because very few acknowledge publically what experience has taught them again and again: material pleasure in general and sexual pleasure in specific is an unrelenting anti-climax. In fact, most people flinch from admitting this reality privately, even to themselves. They prefer the fantasy of delusion, hoping that someday, somehow the fantasy will become reality. They even bring a righteous veneer to materialism by labeling its alternatives as life-negating.

Break free from life-negating lies

Vedic wisdom declares that we deserve better than such a life of lies. We deserve the truth – the uncompromised, unvarnished truth. And intriguingly, that truth is not life-negating; it is life-affirming. In fact, denying this truth is life-negating.

This life-affirming truth begins with an uninhibited expose of the life-negating beliefs of materialism. Trying to mine the body for a pleasure is a doomed project that leads only to pain as the body becomes old and sick and eventually perishes. Living only for the pleasure of the senses, as the Bhagavad-gita (03.16: mogham partha sa jivati) avers, is life-wasting. In fact, it's worse that life-wasting; it’s life-wrecking. The Ishopanishad (mantra 3) deems people who lead such lives as killers of their own souls. Though the soul can never be killed, this metaphorical usage “soul-killer” underscores the tragedy of those who destroy their own spiritual prospects by indiscriminate materialistic indulgence.

By tying our hopes for happiness to the body, we bind ourselves to its inevitable misery and mortality. We reduce our prospects for happiness to the sensations that the body can provide – sensations that are fleeting even in youth and become even less available as the body ages. Once we lose our access to those sensations, what is left to live for? Actually, nothing. Such a prospect-less life would be unlivable. So we invent newer and newer ways of stimulating our imagination through novels, movies and websites hoping to get some hitherto unexperienced pleasure. But the materialist story always remains the same – so much allures, so little delivers.

The Gita frees us from lies not just about the nature of material pleasure but also about material existence at large. Its assessment of this world as a place of misery is concerned, it’s simply a statement of fact. Are disease, old age and death not the grim realities of life? Do we not suffer from bodily, social and environmental miseries?

Stating these miseries is not life-negating; it’s reality-acknowledging.

If this reality is negative, denying it doesn’t make it positive. Denying it simply deprives us of the incentive to explore another more positive reality. That supremely positive reality is spiritual reality, the reality of our eternal spiritual love for Krishna and the life of everlasting happiness that awaits us at that level of reality.

Gita wisdom indicates that our present existence is a diseased existence; we are all suffering from the heart disease of misdirected love. Instead of loving Krishna, we love matter. By thus replacing the eternal with the temporary as the object of our love, we subject ourselves to unnecessary misery. The process of devotional service can cure our heart disease by redirecting our love back from matter to Krishna.

To tell sick people that they are sick is not life-denying. Quite the opposite, to not tell them about their sickness is life-denying – all the more so when that concealment deprives them of the impetus to explore a treatment that is accessible and reliable.

Unfortunately, that’s what happens when we call the denial of the eternal as life-affirming and the affirmation of the eternal as life-denying

The Gita’s call to break free from the thralls of materialism is simply a call to honor our intelligence and end the infatuation with fantasy that leads only to the perpetuation of futility.

The Gita’s most life-affirming message

The greatest life-affirming truth of the Gita is that Krishna is ready and eager to help us; we are in the hands of the safest and the best doctor. The Bhagavad-gita (15.15) indicates that he resides in our heart, for he loves us so much that he wants to be our constant escort and friend. From within our heart, he guides us, if we just seek his help, to overcome the dark desires that militate against our spiritual nature. And he doesn’t restrict his guidance to his inner presence. He also manifests externally as guru-sadhu-shastra to help us unlock our spiritual potential.

When, by Krishna's grace, we control and conquer our lower desires, we become free not only to grow spiritually but also to grow materially in a holistic way that doesn’t run contrary to our spiritual nature. With a clear and focused mind, we are able to do justice to our God-given talents for our as well as others’ good. The many high-class works of literature, architecture, music and other such fields of human excellence that Vedic culture has produced over the centuries that its spiritual focus didn’t lead to the trashing of material talents. Rather, it provided the loftiest inspiration for the unfolding of those talents – use them not just for one’s own ego, but for the glorification of Krishna and the holistic welfare of others. This is evident in the call of the Bhagavad-gita (11.33) to Arjuna to become an instrument in Krishna’s hand and thereby enjoy a flourishing kingdom on the earth.

When we center our life on spiritual truth, we no longer need the torment of perpetual dissatisfaction as a fuel for achievement. Love becomes the fuel – a love that is fulfilling in the joy with which it floods our heart and is also stimulating in its invitation it offers to dive deeper into it by rendering more and more service.

By learning to love Krishna, we become empowered to lead a life worth honoring, a life that is free from the selfish desires and senseless impulses that otherwise sabotage our efforts to live honorably. Devotion to Krishna and the higher happiness it provides bestows as a by-product mastery over our selfish desires and enables us to lead a full and fulfilling life.

When we relish the joy of loving Krishna, the 24-carat gold of sexual delight is exposed to be having as little pleasure as 24 carrots. The great devotee-saint Kulashekhara declares in his Mukunda Mala Stotra (verse 40) that absorption in the holy name of Krishna renders the most cherished worldly objects (such as sexually alluring forms) to be no more attractive than stone or wood.

Such assertions, though they may be far beyond the ken of our present experience, give us glimpses of the ocean of happiness that awaits us as we progress in our spiritual journey. To deny or deprive ourselves of that eternal ecstatic life is the worst negation of life. And to glorify and strive for that life is the best affirmation of life.

Materialists are conspicuous by their ability to exploit others
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Materialists who have neither faith in the plan of God nor any aspiration for higher spiritual development misuse their God-given intelligence only to augment their material possessions. They devise many systems—such as capitalism and materialistic communism—to advance their material position. They are not interested in the laws of God or in a higher goal. Always anxious to fulfill their unlimited desires for sense gratification, they are conspicuous by their ability to exploit their fellow living beings.

Nectar of Instruction purport 2

Tuesday, July 30th, 2013
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It just so happened

Toronto, Ontario

Apurva is set on the harvest of lambsquarters now each day that we trek along in the morning. It was not the deliberate reason for going out, but if by chance we stumble upon the plant then he gets excited.

Later this afternoon three of our young men from the youth van tour got enthusiastic to conduct a chanting party in the posh Yorkville and University area. I guess they were trying to harvest souls. (Remember Jesus' statement about becoming fishers of men?)

It just so happened that when the party of chanters reached St George Street there was a filming of the TV episode "Warehouse 13" going on. One of the crew members, perhaps the director, came forward and began to express disapproval of the sound. Then a tall security fellow came and was about to begin talking to the party to stop.

To the rescue came Rick Hobson (also known as Rsi, student of Prabhupada) who happened to be there, hearing the chanting and the agitated crew. Rsi and wife, Karen, live in an apartment on St George Street. It's their neighbourhood. Rsi came up to the crew including the security and stood there explaining that the chanting party had a right to be there and walk there like anyone else. This heightened the agitation somewhat.

The three boys ambled along playing their music and singing as they were allowed to move with the supervision of Rsi happily being there.

A final note: Please forgive, TV crew, the temporary noise made. To quote Mahatma Gandhi, "forgiveness is the attribute of the strong."

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Sweet Like Sugar Candy
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"The holy name, char­ac­ter, pas­times and activ­i­ties of Krishna are all tran­scen­den­tally sweet like sugar candy. Although the tongue of one afflicted by the jaun­dice of avidya (igno­rance) can­not taste any­thing sweet, it is won­der­ful that sim­ply by care­fully chant­ing these sweet names every day, a nat­ural rel­ish awak­ens within his tongue, and his dis­ease is grad­u­ally destroyed at the root."

Rupa Gos­vami
Nec­tar of Instruc­tion #7

A visit to South Africa – July 2013
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kks sandton_18 julyAfter participating in the Serbian summer camp, Kadamba Kanana Swami travelled to South Africa for a short stay (15-25 July). Although the main purpose of this visit was to discuss plans for the new temple project in SOWETO, an African township that is south of Johannesburg, he also travelled around the country and gave several classes.

On 16 and 17 July, Maharaja visited the Pretoria temple and Iskcon centre in Sandton, respectively. On both days, the program began with an ecstatic bhajan which was followed by a class.

Over the weekend, Maharaja went to Cape Town where he gave the morning classes, a lecture on the False ego at the weekly Saturday evening program, and a talk based on the Bhagavad-gita at the Sunday Feast program.

Thereafter, Maharaja journeyed to Durban for the last part of his visit. While there, Maharaja performed a “first grain” ceremony, lectured from the Srimad Bhagavatam and delivered a biographical sketch at an evening program on 23 July entitled, A journey of faith: From Amsterdam to Vrndavan.

From South Africa, Maharaja returned to Europe. He participated in the summer festival at Radhadesh (27-28 July) and is currently at the Swiss summer camp near Zurich.

Recordings and photos from all the above-mentioned programs in South Africa are available for download.

Lectures

KKS Lecture Pretoria South Africa 17 July 2013 edited

KKS Lecture Krsna Balaram Youth Group Sandton South Africa 18 July 2013 edited

KKS_Lecture_Spirit matters program_Cape Town_South Africa_20 July 2013_edited

KKS_Lecture_CC Adi 15.14_Cape Town_South Africa_21 July 2013_edited

KKS_Lecture_BG 14.21_Sunday Feast_Cape Town_South Africa_21 July 2013_edited

KKS Short Lecture Grain Giving Ceremony Durban South Africa 23 July 2013 edited

KKS_Lecture_Journey of Faith_Durban_South Africa_ 23 July 2013_edited

KKS Lecture SB. 1.3.6 Durban South Africa 25 July 2013 2013 edited

 

Kirtans

KKS Kirtan Pretoria South Africa 17 July 2013 edited

KKS Kirtan Krsna Balaram Youth Group Sandton South Africa 18 July 2013 edited

KKS_Kirtan_Spirit matters program_Cape Town_South Africa_20 July 2013_edited

KKS_Kirtan_Journey of Faith_Durban_South Africa_ 23 July 2013_edited

 

Photos

If you cannot view the slide-show below, then please visit flickr.

 

 

 

 

The power of a Vaishnava
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Q: I have heard and read that if we become Pure Devotee then 100 generations (both past and future) in our family gets liberated. Is it just a symbolic statement or actual fact? If it is a fact, what it practically implies? I mean from details point of view, who are considered as family members and what happen to them after liberation etc.

A: The number of generations that get liberated depends upon the stature of the devotee. In Srila Prabhupader Upadesamrta (“The Nectarean Instructions of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada”), the following fact is presented by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur.

“When a great saint, a pure devotee, appears in a family, his ancestors and descendants for a *hundred* generations are elevated. When a devotee of middle stature (madhyam bhagavat) appears in a family, his ancestors and descendants for *fourteen* generations are elevated. When a neophyte devotee appears in a family, his ancestors and descendants for *three* generations are elevated.”

In the case of Prahlada Maharaja, the Lord offers him the following benediction:

The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: "My dear Prahlada, O most pure, O great saintly person, your father has been purified, along with *twenty-one* forefathers in your family. Because you were born in this family, the entire dynasty has been purified." [SB 7.10.18]

Another reference is -
"... if someone becomes a pure Vaisnava, or devotee of the Lord, ten generations of his family before his birth and ten generations after will be liberated.” [Krsna Book, Ch 64, Story of King Nrga]

The above statements directly answer your question about who the family members are. They are the past and the future generations with respect to the devotee’s immediate family.

These numbers (associated with the ancestors and the descendants) are authoritatively presented in the scriptures and are therefore meant to be taken literally (not symbolically).

In a room conversation (cited below), Srila Prabhupada clarifies that the *liberation* awarded to the family members is tantamount to an opportunity to become a devotee.
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Pusta Krsna: One who becomes a devotee, the statement is that fourteen generations of his family, past, present and future, become liberated. So what kind of liberation does the family members of a pure Vaisnava get?

Prabhupada: Liberation means -- that is explained by Caitanya Mahaprabhu -- to become devotee. That is liberation. To become a devotee is itself liberation. (break)

Answer by H.H.Romapada Swami

Hare Krishna

New Book: To Dance in the Downpour of Devotion
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To Dance in the Downpour of Devotion

To Dance in the Downpour of Devotion

A Summary Study of Mādhurya Kādambinī

Exactly following Srila Vishvanatha Cakravarti Thakur’sMadhurya Kadambini, this book provides an inspirational and practical guide to each step along the road from ignorance to bliss. It vividly and enticingly describes each of the 9 progressive stages of developing divine love, prema-bhakti.

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To Dance in the Downpour of Devotion!
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To Dance in the Downpour of Devotion

To Dance in the Downpour of Devotion

A Summary Study of Mādhurya Kādambinī

Exactly following Srila Vishvanatha Cakravarti Thakur’sMadhurya Kadambini, this book provides an inspirational and practical guide to each step along the road from ignorance to bliss. It vividly and enticingly describes each of the 9 progressive stages of developing divine love, prema-bhakti.

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330. Google Glass
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Here is an interesting video from the Bon Jovi gang trying out the much anticipated Google Glass product. You can see the world from their view point (on stage).

While watching it, I was thinking how cool it would be if our “harinamers” (devotees singing in the streets) had a pair and recorded their street activity for the world to see? I am sure it would hit the world news!

More info on Google Glass here – http://www.google.com/glass/start/