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Transcriber: Suresh Gupta
Edited by: Raji Nachiappan
Question: How can we differentiate between a dharmic and a fanatic?
Answer: The difference is in the attitude towards other people who do not share one’s faith. The difference is also in one’s own internalisation, realisation of the principles one is teaching as well as in the alignment of one’s belief with actual truth. These points are elaborated below.
Firstly, the word fanatic is used for a person who is intolerant. Those who consider their way as the only way and those who endeavour to destroy other forms of worship considering them to be false can be termed as fanatical.
Several religions, including some of the most influential religions in the world today, are exclusivist. They believe that their way is the only way to God. When they ideologically believe that their way is the only way, then from exclusivism to go towards fanaticism is quite easy and quick. All the Abrahamic religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism, in their mainstream denominations, are exclusivist in nature. Not all of them are fanatical, but they do tend to become fanatical over a period of time. In the Indian history, we find that when the Portuguese came to Goa, they annihilated, tortured and destroyed thousands of Hindu practitioners because they considered all the Hindu beliefs to be fake. The way Muslims desecrated temples in India is another example from history. If the belief is, that our way is the only way and all other ways are false, then it does not require much stretch of effort for it to become fanatical. Since, Islam and Christianity are the world’s biggest religions today and because both have exclusivist ideologies, that is why religion in general has been equated with fanaticism. The moment somebody is strictly adherent, that person is termed as a fanatic. We are not saying that all people who belong to the above-mentioned religions are fanatics. Since their main stream belief system is exclusivist which more often than not lead to fanaticism.
When we look at the Vedic culture, the Vedic belief system is not exclusivist. That is the most fundamental and defining difference. The Vedic system does not say that this is the only way. If we look at the Bhagavatam, it says that whichever path teaches one to develop love of God, that is the supreme dharma. In the Vedic culture itself, we see that there are many gods worshiped and many methods of worship. There is flexibility of both sadhya and sadhana. Flexibility of sadhya means people can choose their object of worship. It can be Brahman, Paramatma or Bhagavan or they can choose different devatas to worship. Similarly, there is flexibility of sadhana which means people can choose their method of worship. It can be karma yoga, dhyana yoga, bhakti yoga, karma kanda etc. In the Vedic culture, Srila Prabhupada for example, accepts Jesus as a guru because he had love of God. Therefore, the ideology of the Vedic followers is not exclusivism but inclusivism.
When we say that there is flexibility of sadhya and sadhana, it does not mean that all sadhya and sadhana are equally valid. There is a hierarchy. Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita that while there are multiple paths, all of which are ultimately meant to come to him, there are certain paths which are more desirable than others. Also, while Lord Krishna in BG 4.11 says that all people are on my path, he does not simplistically say that all paths come to me. All paths are ultimately meant to come to him but there is a possibility that they may not come. In 9.25, Lord Krishna says: yaanti deva-vrata devaan pitrin yaanti pitra-vrataah bhutaani yaanti bhutejya yaanti mad-yaajino ’pi maam – which means that different paths lead to different destinations. Hence, the inclusivist idea is that there are multiple paths and there are different levels.
Since Vedic culture is not exclusivist in its ideologies hence the tendency to become fanatical within that is much lesser. However, it is still possible that fanaticism can result when people use religion as a tool for boosting their own ego. The tendency to think that I am great because my religion is the greatest can very easily lead to fanaticism. There can be instances of fanaticism, as an extension of this mentality in Vedic culture too. However, the fundamental difference is that, in the Vedic thought process, fanaticism will not be the natural outgrowth of the central beliefs. It will be a result of the imposition of selfish agendas on the belief system. Attitude towards others faiths is important and Vedic culture has a tolerant and inclusive attitude towards them.
Secondly, the aspect of one’s internalisation and realisation of the path is important. Often, when religion becomes a tool for asserting one’s authority and power, then one focuses on religion more as a tool for external aggrandisement than for inner development. When a practitioner of a religion transforms oneself through realization of spiritual happiness, then such an experience will prevent one from becoming fanatic. When one goes deeper to taste the spiritual reality, then one can see how different spiritual paths have a common essence. As long as we are in the superficial externals, we will only see differences. If we delve deep within, then we will see that ultimately all paths are meant to help us develop love of God. Those who actually practice religion and achieve spiritual happiness can see the essential similarity. Those who do not practice, quite often, are the people who fight.
Also, we should not mistake or conflate fanatical focus with fanaticism. Fanatical focus means diligent, one pointed, intense practice that is required for success in any field. If a sports person want to be successful in a sport, they need to focussed on one game. If they keep shifting their focus to different games how can they achieve success in any one of those. If the person is serious about achieving success, they need to stick to one sport and practice diligently.
The different religious systems are also compared to different treatment systems like allopathy, ayurvedic treatment, naturopathy or homeopathy. A patient cannot expect to be cured by shifting its focus, say take allopathy for three days, ayurveda for four days, homeopathy for a few days, and then naturopathy for the next few days. If the patient wants to be cured, then they have to focus. Such focus is not fanaticism. Also, just because a patient diligently sticks to one particular treatment system does not mean that the patient derides or rejects the other. Similarly, because a person is following a path seriously that does not necessarily mean they reject other religions or that the person is fanatic.
Being fanatically focused means, strictly following the path one has chosen. Fanaticism means, one is intolerant, offensive and even destructive towards other paths and their followers.
When one is fanatically focused, then one gets realisation. For a realized person, superficial differences do not matter as much. However, when one is not realized, then one sees only on the external platform and then one sees only the differences.
Finally, and most importantly, is the aspect of what is the actual truth. There can be people who can fanatically believe in false things and there are people who sincerely believe in true things. The scriptures give the ultimate truth and to the extent, we understand the truth, not just at the intellectual level but at a level of realisation, then we do not become fanatical. At that stage, one develops compassion because one feels connected to the family of God and wants to extend that connection and love of God to all living beings.
In summary, by the attitude shown towards other faiths, by the determined practice of one’s own path and by the alignment of one’s beliefs with reality, one can differentiate between a dharmic person and a fanatic. There are many questions on this website that deal with this issue much further, especially in the category of different world religions. Further questions to understand, how different faiths co-relate has been expanded in a series of lectures, titled, ‘Krishna consciousness and world religions’ which is available on this website.
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Giriraj Swami read and spoke on Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.23:
“O King Rahugana, the perfectional stage of devotional service, or the paramahamsa stage of life, cannot be attained unless one is blessed by the dust of the feet of great devotees. It is never attained by tapasya [austerity], the Vedic worshiping process, acceptance of the renounced order of life, the discharge of the duties of household life, the chanting of the Vedic hymns, or the performance of penances in the hot sun, within cold water or before the blazing fire. Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.23 purport.
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“Now, what exactly does it mean to be blessed by the dust from the feet of pure devotees? In broad sense it means to be blessed by the mercy of pure devotees. One gets the mercy by following their instructions. So, we are blessed by receiving the instructions from pure devotees and we are further blessed by following their instructions.
“Once in Bombay a disciple asked Srila Prabhupada for his mercy to follow his instructions. Srila Prabhupada sort of curled his lips in disgust and said. ‘My mercy is that I have given my instructions. Now it is up to you to follow them.’ Then he gave the example of the person who had fallen into a well. When his savior or deliverer hands down a rope to pull him out he prays. ‘Please make my fingers curl around the rope.’ Your deliverer has sent down the rope and he is ready to pull you out of the well, but you have to hold on to the rope. In other words he has given you his mercy in the form of his instructions but now you have to follow his instructions.”
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Full happiness means full freedom. As long as we are not fully happy, we are chained, we are trapped and we are not free. Only in full happiness are we actually free. Therefore, only in Krsna consciousness we can be really free, because nowhere else are we able to be fully happy.
So this is nice to remember that devotional service is voluntarily performed. It is performed out of free choice and no one is forced in this way. Service can be our life, but this is our choice because Krsna does not force us! He gives us a choice; to simply serve or not, as we individually desire. But in devotional service, we are voluntarily taking responsibility. And that responsibility will bind us. But at the same time, we can give all of that up in any moment. This is because we are not signing any contract, we are not obligated. We can go away at any time we want. Who can stop us? But somehow or other we accept responsibility for Krsna because we desire it, because we wish to do so. Because we know that Krsna is worthy.
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Giriraj Swami read and spoke from Bhagavad-gita 9.13:
“Here it is mentioned ‘bhajanty ananya-manaso‘ without deviation of the mind. As we know from Bhagavad-gita and personal experience, the mind can be our best friend or our worst enemy. When the mind is engaged in Krishna consciousness it is our best friend and when it strays into maya it becomes our worst enemy. So, by constitution it is not a friend or an enemy—in fact no one is—but by behavior one acts as a friend or an enemy. The mind has to be controlled by engaging it in Krishna consciousness. There are nine processes for engaging in Krishna consciousness of which the primary three are hearing about Krishna, chanting about Krishna and remembering Krishna. So, ananya manaso—we don’t want the mind to wander into any other field but Krishna consciousness.”
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In the Brihad-Gautamiya Tantra, Srimati Radharani is described as follows:
sarva-lakshmi-mayi sarva kantih sammohini para
devi krishna-mayi prokta radhika para-devata
“The transcendental goddess Srimati Radharani is the direct counterpart of Lord Sri Krishna. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord.”
Srimati Radharani is the Supreme Goddess. Radharani is the queen of Vrndavana. She is most always seen with Lord Krishna. It is described that She is the chief associate and devotee of Lord Krishna, and topmost of all Goddesses. Her name means that She is the most excellent worshiper of Lord Krishna. However, She is also an expansion of the Lord’s energy. Since She is also an extension of Krishna, She is the feminine aspect of God. Thus, in the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition, God is both male and female. They are One, but Krishna expands into two, Himself and Radharani, for the sake of divine loving pastimes.
To explain further, Srimati Radharani is also the source of the other goddesses, who are expansions of Her. Just as Lord Krishna is the source of all other expansions and incarnations of God, Radharani is the source of all other expansions of the energies of God, the shaktis, or other goddesses. Thus, Vishnu, Rama, even Shiva are all expansions of the one Supreme Being, and similarly Lakshmi, Sita, and even Durga are all expansions of this Supreme Feminine form of God, Radharani.
Giriraj Swami read and spoke from Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.23:
jivañ chavo bhagavatanghri-renum
na jatu martyo ’bhilabheta yas tu
sri-visnu-padya manujas tulasyah
svasañ chavo yas tu na veda gandham
Translation:
The person who has not at any time received the dust of the feet of the Lord’s pure devotee upon his head is certainly a dead body. And the person who has never experienced the aroma of the tulasi leaves from the lotus feet of the Lord is also a dead body, although breathing.
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Giriraj Swami read and spoke from Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.23.
“In the Brahma-samhita it is said that the Lord is never to be found by becoming a great scholar of the Vedic literatures, but He is very easily approachable through His pure devotee. In Vrndavana all the pure devotees pray for the mercy of Srimati Radharani, the pleasure potency of Lord Krsna. Srimati Radharani is a tenderhearted feminine counterpart of the supreme whole, resembling the perfectional stage of the worldly feminine nature. Therefore, the mercy of Radharani is available very readily to the sincere devotees, and once She recommends such a devotee to Lord Krsna, the Lord at once accepts the devotee’s admittance into His association. The conclusion is, therefore, that one should be more serious about seeking the mercy of the devotee than that of the Lord directly, and by one’s doing so (by the good will of the devotee) the natural attraction for the service of the Lord will be revived. Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.23 purport.
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